EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

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EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by mathewfer » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:35 pm

Hi

Is it possible to run EVE-NG Comm edition or EVE-NG Pro VM on AWS or Microsoft Azure?
Any issues / has any one running it on them successfully?
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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by ecze » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:29 pm

AWS: This offer is not compliant: no HW acceleration

Azure: Latest offer HW acceleration but let the user blind: fine tuning is really hard. Indeed Azure doesn't offer a console access. If network fails, the VM is lost.

So EVE-NG team doesn't advise such providers

E.

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by mathewfer » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:01 am

Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this.

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by ronei.amorim » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:24 pm

I was planning to install EVE-NG on Azure, but this news does not support console... So... no chances!

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by Sipart » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:11 pm

As above with additional note:

AWS - no nested virtualisation - so not possible.

Azure - works with caveat - but use a VM with 's V3' in machine name to get nested virtualisation). Caveat is that the EVE-NG kernel/UKSM does not work with Azure VMs.

GCP - interactive console access works fine https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/i ... al-console (if you ever need it - you shouldn't - you have to add a setting to the metadata) - you need a modified image to get nested virtualisation working - see below. You get $300 worth of credit that lasts a year - so this is the best provider. EVE-NG kernel/UKSM does work with GCP.

BUT !! - I can't find a way to use the EVE-NG kernel in Azure - I can only get it to work with GCP - (link to logs from unbootable Azure VM after trying to use EVE-NG kernel - https://github.com/sipart/spring_lab/bl ... -kernel.md)

KSM (not UKSM) does seem to work with the GCP and Azure kernel - but I would say the EVE-NG kernel has other tweaks that make it more fit-for-purpose and UKSM is preferable.

TONY E post and video shows how to get EVE-NG running with the EVE-NG kernel. Doing this in the Azure VM ends up with it being unbootable if I move the Azure kernels and update-grub just like in GCP.

#### Obviously NONE of this is supported or advised by the EVE-NG team!! ####

https://github.com/sipart/spring_lab/bl ... %20more.md

Comprehensive post by [ithitman](http://ithitman.blogspot.com/2018/04/co ... mpute.html)

Tony Es similar but basic blog [post](https://showipintbri.blogspot.com/2018/ ... cloud.html) which points to his comprehensive video on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDHsMgCs0XU) - NOTE: take special attention to section at 28:34 about GCP kernel!

Watch alternative [Azure](https://youtu.be/hdUSNWMHbUU) setup by thelantamer

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by ctm-tech » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:29 am

Been using Eve-NG on my local machine for 6 months or so now and think it brilliant.
My day job is highly based around Azure so last night I spun up a VM and setup Eve. I'm finding some really niggly issues with slowness that I put down to the Azure VM. I've tried Cisco Switches/ASA-V and CSR routers, they all take 5mins + to spin up one at a time, I haven't tried starting multiple. Typing seems to be somewhat delayed. Also I tried to setup metric monitoring to understand where I'm lacking and found some weird stuff like my CPU flat lines at 40% and doesn't go above it. Cannot get memory monitoring so its a stab in the dark as to how much I need.

I wanted to do it into Azure for availability, so I can just spin up the VM when required and then power down afterwards. But seems like I need a larger VM that the D4 v3 that I'm running. Probably needs more IOPS/throughput than the standard HDD, but the Premium SSD's will bump the price up dramatically (remember you pay for storage even when your not using it).

I think it works out my cost efficient to leave my home machine.

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by Uldis (UD) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:44 pm

Unfortunately Azure nor AWS does not support nested virtualization, so it will be good for IOL, Dynamips..
Maybe it is changed now...
Slowness of boot Qemu nodes, CSR, vIOS can be Antivirus related, for example my Avast AV had turned on virtualization check, this makse EVE qemu nodes boot simply 10 times slower..
On cloud, sorry I dont know

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by Sipart » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:52 am

As above and in summary as of March 2019:
AWS - no nested virtualisation - so not possible.

Azure - works with caveat - use a VM with 's V3' in machine name to get nested virtualisation. Caveat is that the EVE-NG kernel/UKSM DOES NOT WORK with Azure VMs.

GCP - you need a modified Ubuntu image to get nested virtualisation working - see the ithitman and showipintbrief posts above about that image. EVE-NG kernel/UKSM does work with GCP.

Best choice **GCP** as you get $300 worth of credit that lasts a year and the EVE-NG kernel/UKSM does work with GCP.
And finally - things could change in this environments out of your control and I doubt the EVE-NG team will support you running them in these 'clouds' so if anything stops working or it all goes a bit crazy then don't expect any support :-)

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Re: EVE-NG run on AWS or Microsoft Azure - Possible?

Post by Uldis (UD) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:21 pm

I will do soon how to for it...

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